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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.16 07:29:00 -
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I put the money where the tongue is.
Effective earlier today, after that sorry abortion of a blog, I have already shutdown every and all of both my in game and out of game services and websites (official announcement).
Therefore since today the foolowing services have joined the OP's initiative:
- Running audits will be immediately and all aborted starting now.
- 3rd party service, research etc, stopped.
- The upcoming RL trading course, stopped.
Here is the list of open to everyone services that I will have to shutdown
EvE Emergency Trust PLEX Charity initiative when RL disasters happen (featured on Fanfest 2011 videos, donated > $4000 to Japanese)
Official EvE thread
Hosted on
Vahrokh.com official sub-site
EvE Technical Analysis (finance)
Official EvE thread
Hosted on
Vahrokh.com official sub-site
EvE Public Audits Archive (Market Discussion investments)
Hosted on
Vahrokh.com official sub-site
EvE Public Investmens Records (Market Discussion investments)
Hosted on
Vahrokh.com official sub-site
EvE Charting Service
Official EvE thread
Hosted on
Vahrokh.com official sub-site
NEISIN free app
Official EvE thread
Hosted on
Vahrokh.com official sub-site
EvE Income Analyzer (trading / sales analysis graphs and statistics)
Hosted on
Vahrokh.com official sub-site
Here's the proof:
I am also seeking for attorney consultancy, since I have invested 6 months of hard work setting up that many services plus operation expenses for paid domain, paid commercial hosting, paid certificate. I quantify my assets and moral losses in $10,000. Thanks CCP! That's your support to those who made your game famous, for free and at their expense!
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.16 08:50:00 -
[2]
 Originally by: Venetian Tar
If this includes corporate websites and killboards, this is going to **** a lot of people (including myself) off.
Yes, it includes the 95% of killboards that are public.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.16 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: SystemAdministrator
I can tell you didn't read our thread and your TLDR proves it. We wouldn't have a problem if we were charging real money for our apps and services.
I would.
I did not choose to play a game because I got randomly hit by a golf club. I chose to play a game to have fun and share what I have made. For zero, nada, null, zilch money nor ISK.
If I wanted to earn money I would have just done an RL job, where making $10 is infinitely easier than convincing a squadron of cheap-o-students to shell for some amateur application.
But hey, no only I wanted to share for FREE to EVERYONE, I also paid my own DNS server, hosting, certificates, developement.
What a loan shark I am for having put 2 Google ads that earned me 0.26 euros in 6 months! I clearly deserve to ALSO pay $99 on top of that!
For work I have done *before* this farcical blog came out. So now I am damaged for things done before this "contract" came out. I demand idemnification for assets and moral damage, quantifiable in USD 10,000.
Deal? Then I'll pay CCP the $99.
But just for a year, because then they can GTFO, because I don't have to have to do anything in common with them any more.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.16 17:06:00 -
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Kronus are we still going with this, after CCP Zulu's reply?
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.16 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kronus Heilgar
Obviously the answer to this question is up to each individual participant, but personally I am of the opinion that we should go forward with it. Although certainly a step in the right direction, CCP Zulu's reply highlights the fact that the opinions and feedback of the players and developers takes a back seat to their desire to spit out more candy-coated features that it seems most players don't want.
I believe that continuing with our demonstration will really help sink in the fact that as a united player base that is footing the bill for everything CCP does, we should at least have some input into how things are done, preferably before posting bad ideas to a dev blog and starting a 1000-post rage threadnaught.
Kronus
Ok signed.
Guys, let's do this. Go and put your name under the appeal, since it's a WAY better alternative draft than CCPs.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.17 23:46:00 -
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Please don't derail this thread in the Aurum flames. There are enough on GD as is, go post there.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.18 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Hel O'Ween
EVEWalletAware has joined the party yesterday.
Now your signature got new a meaning about the "offline wallet manager" bit. 
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.18 12:34:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 18/06/2011 12:35:24
Originally by: Evanova Android
I have to agree entirely with this. As I see it, this is only a *draft* and the whole idea behind it is to make it easier to 3rd parties to make money. The Capsuleer story showed us how hard it was to get CCP on a business license. I secretly hope CCP understood that and tried to come up with some easy licensing scheme.
Of course they need to mess up a good move with misinformed decisions and ill-conceived ideas. Hell, it's CCP we are talking about! But at least they don't slam it on us. There is a LOT of room for improvement and the best developers could do is work with CCP on a scheme that would be good for both parties.
For my part, I have just posted 'Evanova', which is 6-month worth of work packed as a free Android application for Eve, no later than yesterday.
I am outraged as much as anyone about the donations and ISK parts, but 99$ sounds reasonable to me if I want to SELL my application on the Android Market. Actually, it is much better than having to go through the misery of dealing with CCP to get such a deal.
This did not became a draft in some magical way. Actually this IS the draft CCP style, in the sense it started as final, then the outrage made them patch it and finally they backpedalled it and put the late flag: "draft" at the end.
If people stood in faithful waiting, maybe 3 days from now we'd have to pay already.
Also, no one (including us) ever had anything to say about the license for payware apps, in fact we are in the other half of the license, the freeware apps.
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